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by Jack El-Hai
A gripping dual portrait of Hermann Göring and the American psychiatrist who studied him at Nuremberg, asking whether the Nazi leaders were monsters or disturbingly ordinary men.
Jack El-Hai tells the story of Douglas M. Kelley, a young U.S. Army psychiatrist assigned to assess the mental fitness of the top Nazi prisoners awaiting trial at Nuremberg. Kelley saw the job as a scientific opportunity: if he could identify a psychological defect shared by these men, he might explain how Nazism happened and help prevent it from happening again. Much of the book centers on his long conversations with Hermann Göring, the most charismatic and manipulative of the defendants, and on the uneasy rapport that grew between them.
El-Hai draws on Kelley's personal papers and records to follow him from the detention center in Luxembourg through the trial and into his troubled postwar life. That includes his professional rivalry with the psychologist Gustave Gilbert over who owned the interview and test data, and Kelley's uncomfortable conclusion that the Nazi leaders were not clinically abnormal in any way that set them apart from ordinary people. The second half traces how that idea, and his time with Göring, shadowed him in the years that followed.
The writing is brisk and narrative-driven, closer to a true-crime or biographical thriller than an academic study. Chapters move between Kelley's life and the prisoners' stories, with plenty of vivid detail about Göring's vanity and cunning. It is an easy, absorbing read that raises big questions about evil without burying the reader in theory.
Kelley hoped psychiatric interviews and Rorschach tests would reveal a distinctive pathology in the Nazi leadership. El-Hai shows how that hope collided with his findings: apart from a few individuals, the prisoners looked psychologically unremarkable. The book treats this as the story's central unsettling idea, anticipating later debates about the banality of evil and the capacity of ordinary people for atrocity.
Göring emerges as intelligent, funny, vain, and calculating, a man who understood how to charm the people guarding him. El-Hai uses the Kelley–Göring relationship to show how proximity and personal rapport can blur moral judgment, and how even a trained observer can be drawn in by a skilled manipulator.
The book portrays Kelley as brilliant but ambitious, eager to publish and make his name. His clash with Gustave Gilbert over interview material and test results shows how the scientific study of the defendants was entangled with ego, careers, and competing interpretations, which shaped what the public later learned about the Nazi mind.
El-Hai follows Kelley well beyond Nuremberg, into his career in criminology and his personal struggles. The book suggests that close engagement with the defendants left a mark on him, and it invites readers to consider what such work does to the people who undertake it, without reducing his life to a simple cautionary tale.
This is a focused, popular history, not a full account of the trials or the legal proceedings, and the victims of Nazi crimes stay largely in the background. Some readers feel the psychological analysis stays fairly light, and that Kelley's methods, including heavy reliance on Rorschach testing, deserve more critical scrutiny than they get. Because the book leans on Kelley's own papers, his perspective dominates, and Gilbert's side of their dispute gets less sympathetic treatment. Those wanting deep engagement with the scholarship on perpetrator psychology may find it introductory.
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